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Founder Failures: Post-Mortems · Episode 7 · 8 min · 9 April 2026

Brutal Boardroom: The Unfiltered Post-Mortem on Business Blunders

Two founders dissect the business decisions they wish they could take back—no sugarcoating, just hard-earned lessons.

What this episode covers

A boardroom post-mortem argues that failed hires often reflect attitude and motivation more than technical skill, and that interview impressions can hide the person who arrives under pressure.

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A study from Leadership IQ found that forty-six percent of all new hires fail within eighteen months. And here’s the part that always gets me—eighty-nine percent of those failures aren’t because of technical skill. They fail because of attitude. Motivation. The stuff you can’t really see on a resume. Right. It’s the stuff you feel in your gut during the interview and then decide to ignore. We have absolutely been there. That one hire… you know the one I’m talking about. Oh, I know the one. It felt like we were finally getting ahead, like we were on the verge of breaking through, and we thought, "One more key person, and we're there." We were drowning. Orders were coming in, the team was stretched thin, and we needed a senior person to just… take a piece of the business off our plate.

We didn't even have a perfect title for it. Head of Growth? Head of Operations? We just needed a grown-up. We needed a savior. And that’s the first mistake. You can't hire a savior. You have to hire a builder. It’s the exact trap Candice Bannister fell into with her cupcake company. She was growing so fast she just rushed to fill seats, and it nearly sank her. And our guy, on paper, he was perfect. He’d worked at two companies we admired, he talked a great game, he knew all the acronyms. In the interview, he was just… so polished. He had an answer for everything. He did. And we were so impressed by the answers that we forgot to ask the right questions. We never once asked, "Tell me about a time a project you led went completely off the rails.

What did you do?" We never asked about failure. We just asked about his wins. And the red flag I completely ignored? He never once said "we." It was always "I." "I grew revenue by 300%." "I launched this product." It was never "My team and I." That’s exactly it. We were hiring for a leader, but we were interviewing an individual contributor with a big title. We didn’t define the behaviors we needed. We just had a list of skills. And the first thirty days… it started so subtly. It was just… a weird energy. He’d agree to a deadline in a team meeting, and then the day would come and he'd have a dozen reasons why it wasn't done. And they were always someone else's fault.

The data wasn't clean, the junior analyst didn't get him what he needed… And our best people, the ones who always delivered, they started getting quiet. You could see them having to work around him. They’d stop including him on email chains because it was just faster to do it themselves. That’s when the silent losses start. Hold on—what do you mean by silent losses? The U.S. Department of Labor says a bad hire costs at least thirty percent of their first-year salary. But that’s just the visible part. The founder of Ned Capital, Adrian Lawrence, calls the other stuff "cash erosion." It's the wasted management hours, the slowed projects, the tarnished trust. It doesn't show up on a payroll line.

It shows up on your calendar. I remember that feeling in my stomach when I’d see a one-on-one with him pop up. Just a complete energy drop. Because I knew the entire conversation would be me trying to hold him accountable and him tap-dancing around the real issues. You spend more time managing around the person than you do building the company. That’s the real cost. It’s not the salary. It’s your time. It’s your focus. It’s the drag on the entire organization. We were becoming the bottleneck because we were spending half our week dealing with the fallout from one person. And the rest of the team sees it! They see you tolerating it. And that erodes their trust in you. They start to wonder, "Do the founders even see what's happening?" Or worse, "Is this the new standard here?" That’s the cultural damage.

One person can absolutely change the energy of the whole room. It took us... what, six months to finally act? Six months. And every single one of those months we paid twice. Once for his salary, and again in lost productivity and morale from everyone else who had to clean up his messes. The final conversation was awful. Just brutal. It was. But the feeling in the office the next day… was relief. It was like a storm cloud had lifted. And that’s when we said, "Never again." So what did we actually change? Because it wasn't just about being more careful. We built a whole new system. We did. First, we got incredibly clear on the behaviors we wanted before we even wrote the job description.

Things like "takes ownership" and "shows generosity with credit." We started interviewing for those things specifically. The paid trial project was the biggest game-changer. We stopped asking people what they would do and started paying them to actually do a small, defined piece of work. It takes a week, maybe two. But you learn more in that one week than you do in five rounds of interviews. One hundred percent. You see how they communicate in Slack. You see how they handle feedback. You see if they ask for help or if they just spin their wheels. You can’t fake that. Remember Buffer? They hired so fast their payroll hit eighty percent of their costs, and they had to do massive layoffs.

They learned they had to slow down and be deliberate. And we started doing real reference checks. Not just calling the numbers they give you. We’d find people on LinkedIn who worked with them two jobs ago and ask one simple question: "Would you enthusiastically rehire this person?" The hesitation in their voice tells you everything you need to know. That’s the data. It’s not what they say, it’s how long they pause before they say it. It feels like so much extra work upfront. The trial project, the back-channel references, the structured interviews… it probably adds two weeks to the hiring process. It adds two weeks to the process to save you six months of pain. The math on that is undeniable.

We learned the hard way that hiring fast is the slowest way to build a great company. You end up having to re-do the work. Just look at Klarna—they replaced hundreds of support staff with an AI, then had to start rehiring because the quality plummeted. There's no shortcut. So the lesson for any founder listening is that the most expensive mistake you can make isn't a bad marketing campaign or a flawed product feature. It's the person you let onto the team who doesn't belong there. And the problem is rarely their skills. The problem is who they are when the pressure is on. You have to design a process that reveals that before you make an offer. I still think about it sometimes.

Do you think there was any way to save that situation? To coach him into being the person we needed? No. I think the mistake was made the second we sent the offer letter. We hired the person we saw in the interview, but that person never actually showed up for work.

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Two founders dissect a business decision that went badly wrong, with the kind of brutal honesty you normally only hear behind closed doors.

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