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Timeless Tiffs · Episode 18 · 5 min · English audio · 18 August 2026

Classic Clash: Does 'The Godfather' Still Reign Supreme in 2026?

Two passionate critics debate if iconic movies, albums, and books truly stand the test of time—or just their reputations.

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Two critics argue over whether The Godfather still deserves its place as the benchmark gangster film. One finds the three-hour film slow, calls Marlon Brando’s Oscar-winning role more symbol than character, and says the film romanticizes the Mafia and gives its women, especially Kay Adams, almost no agency. The other defends the pacing as deliberate, reads Brando’s Don as a fading lion, and argues the film critiques the patriarchal world it shows, pointing to Michael’s final lie to Kay. They weigh The Sopranos against it and end on whether a masterpiece must be morally timeless.

Key points

  • The Godfather came out in 1972 and became the highest-grossing movie of that year.
  • One critic defends the film as a tragedy about Michael Corleone methodically losing his soul, built on Al Pacino’s slow-burn performance.
  • The other critic says the film’s women are wives, sisters and mistresses, with Kay Adams reduced to a symbol of normal life.
  • One critic argues The Sopranos, which owes everything to The Godfather, did better at showing the ugly, un-romantic side of that life.

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In 1972, a single film, The Godfather, became the highest-grossing movie of the year, pulling in over 250 million dollars. Last week, Admin, we talked about the endurance of Casablanca, but this is a whole different level of cultural footprint. For fifty years, this has been the benchmark for the gangster film. Has it, though? Or has it just been the film everyone feels they have to say is the benchmark? I mean, I rewatched it this week, and honestly... it’s slow. It’s a three-hour film, and you feel all one hundred and seventy-five of those minutes. Whoa, okay, coming in hot. I completely disagree. That pacing isn't slow, it's deliberate.

It’s a tragedy. It’s the story of a man, Michael Corleone, methodically losing his soul. You can’t rush that! Al Pacino’s performance is built on that slow burn. Oh, I’ll give you Pacino. His transformation is incredible. But let’s talk about the other performance, the one that won the Oscar. Marlon Brando. A masterclass. What about it? Is it? Or is it a skillful throwaway, as Roger Ebert himself called it? It's a great performance, sure, but it's all affect. It's the voice, the makeup... The movie isn't even about him. It's about Michael. Brando is more of a symbol than a character. But that's the point! He's this fading lion. He represents the old world that Michael is trying to escape and then, ultimately, has to embrace and surpass.

His presence looms over everything, even when he’s not on screen. That's not a throwaway, that’s thematic genius from Francis Ford Coppola. Alright, I'll give you that one, the thematic weight is there. But the world itself... that's where it really starts to feel dated for me. What do you mean? The cinematography, Nino Rota's score... it's immersive. It feels like a dark fable. It feels like a boys' club. And I know, I know, it's about a patriarchal crime family. But the film isn't just depicting it, it feels like it's reveling in it. The women are, what, wives, sisters, mistresses? Kay Adams is just a symbol of the normal life Michael is leaving behind.

She has almost no agency. I think that's a modern lens on a period piece. The film is showing the poison of that world. It’s a critique of that unapologetic gender stereotyping, not an endorsement of it. The way Michael lies to Kay at the very end is one of the most chilling moments in cinema because it shows that the patriarchal corruption has fully consumed him. I hear you, but... is it a critique? Or is it just romanticizing the whole thing? The meals, the meetings, the sense of honor among thieves... It presents the Mafia as this noble, almost understandable response to a corrupt society. We're meant to find it compelling, even attractive.

It's compelling because it's complex! It doesn't give you easy answers. It's an emotional and intellectual experience, not just a shoot-em-up. That’s why it's a masterpiece. I just think later works, like The Sopranos — which obviously owes everything to The Godfather — did a much better job of showing the ugly, pathetic, and deeply un-romantic side of that life. The Godfather still feels a little too in love with its own mythology. But it created the mythology for The Sopranos to deconstruct! You can't have one without the other. The Godfather built the cathedral. It set the standard for American cinema, not just crime movies.

It built a beautiful cathedral, I agree. I just think if you look closely, you can see the cracks in the foundation. It’s a monumental piece of film history, absolutely. But the greatest film of all time? For today's audience? I don't think so. Huh. So we’re left with this question, then. Does a film have to be morally and socially timeless to be considered an artistic masterpiece? That's exactly it. Can we separate the art from the era it was born in? I'm not sure we can, or even if we should.

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